Thursday, 28 April 2011

29 APRIL 2011: WANTED A RED RABBLE FOR ROUGH MUSIC AND 1831 ALIVE ON STEPS OF THE BAE CAERDYDD FREE STATE SENEDD - JUST DO IT!


28 Apr 2011 ... The Cake Eaters: Cardiff, Thursday 28th April ... RED REMEMBRANCER: 1831 ALIVE: Living History Interpretation Society. 24 Jan 2008 . ...
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Saturday, 16 April 2011

THE 20 APRIL 1801 IN WELSH SOCIALIST HISTORY - THE SWANSEA FOOD DISTURBENCES - THREAT OF SERIOUS RIOTING. 

20 April 1801 = Demonstrations at Swansea by women 
& children regarding the 
price of food. Cardigan 
Militia, stationed at Swansea, called out to quell
the disturbance. Supposed threat of riot by colliers 
in Swansea resulted in 
the Inniskilling Dragoons 
(stationed at Cardiff) being called in.

2 Dec 2010 ... Focusing on Llangyfelach in the South, though such was the extent....Neither was that the end of Swansea and the Corn riots, in April 1801 ...hwbhanes.blogspot.com/.../come-join-corn-party-cymru-onward.html - Cached
On the march from Llangyfelach Early to Swansea in 1793, for Example, the mob was wide by Llewelin Llewelin, and Collier, David and William Thomas and Thomas, coppermen, quoted from....  

......... Cylchgronau Cymru - Cylchgrawn Hanes Cymru / Welsh History Review ...
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Often the rioters had recognized leaders. On the march fromLlangyfelach to ...
cylchgronaucymru.llgc.org.uk › ... › Vol. 2, nos. 1-4 - 1964-65 -Cached


BattleCardGame Blog
This was the period of the Rebecca Riots, of Chartism in the valleys to the east with the .... Pollard later went on to build theLlangyfelach copper works. ...
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17 Apr 2011 ... RED REMEMBRANCER. A Welsh Radical PLatform: containing ... 5 hours ago - Volunteers help restore Llanhilleth Colliery Memorial Apr 14 2011. ...
redremembrancer.blogspot.com/2011/.../cofiwn-goch-hanes-cymru-goch-battle-of.html
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Thursday, 14 April 2011


          

        









THE REBECCA RIOTS - RECONSIDER AS A NATIONAL SOCIAL STRUGGLE MOVEMENT: The Rebecca Riots In Northern Wales - Towards Later Tithe Wars 1888.










 

A feature in BBC WALES - History - Themes states there was no Rebecca activity in the North West other than a ''Joking Re-enactment'' (see quote and link below), this I fear is based on accounts of the time that sought to clear the good name of 'Gogs' and blame the Porthmadog Toll Gate attack on ''Hwntws'' from Ceredigion. I have read this up in a journal whilst passing time in Caernarfon Town Library but have lost ref regards where I read it, possibly Caernarfonshire Historical Transactions.

''The riots were mainly confined to the old counties of Pembrokeshire, Cardiganshire and Carmarthenshire; there was only one incident in north Wales at Penmorfa, near Porthmadog, in Caernarfonshire and this was really a joking re-enactment of the south-west Wales incidents. Underlying the protests were the economic conditions of the time and the relationship between farmers and landlords, and the church.''

BBC Wales - History - Themes - The Rebecca Riots
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The Rebecca Riots were a series of protests against conditions in the rural ... a surviving toll in Porthmadog in the 1990s, they named it Rebecca and gave ...
www.bbc.co.uk/wales/history/.../politics_rebecca_riots.shtml -Cached - Similar

One event, joke or not might not a Rebecca Revolt in North West Wales but certainly there was Rebecca Riots taking place in central Wales, particularly at Rhaedr:

Rebecca Riots 6

The Rebecca riots 6. Aftermath. An early Victorian policeman from Mid Wales. Photograph by kind permission of Llanidloes Museum, Victorian policeman ...
history.powys.org.uk/history/rhaeadr/rebecca6.html - Cached - Similar

However, it was in North East Wales; Fflintshire and in Denbighshire that the Rebecca Revolt took off quite signifigantly, see quote and source link below: 

'Meanwhile in North Wales, farmers and tradesmen had also been hit hard by the introduction of tolls and they followed the lead of their fellow Welshmen by taking action in Flintshire and Denbighshire. Around 30 farm buildings and ricks were burned in Denbighshire and greater numbers in Flintshire. They took down the toll gates at Maerdy, near Corwen, and left a note on the razed gatehouse saying that it was the work of Sister Rebecca. The Meliden area was particularly sympathetic to the cause and fighting was commonplace throughout 1844 in this part of Flintshire'.

The Rebecca Riots in North East Wales - Chester Chronicle ...
26 Jan 2011 ... The Rebecca Riots originated in West Wales in the late 1830s and spread...of people who begrudged paying church tithes to the Anglicans. ...
blogs.chesterchronicle.co.uk/.../the-rebecca-riots-in-north-eas.html - Cached - Similar

Meanwhile down South, Swansea way:

FLICK through the pages of Welsh history and somewhere along the ...
25 Oct 2010 ... The Rebecca Riots Within Ten Miles Of Swansea leans heavily on what was ... in South and Mid Wales in response to perceived unfair taxation. ...
www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/news/Author...Rebecca-Riots/.../article.html

The Tithe Wars of 1888, a follow up soon and to remind you:

Memorial to the Tithe Martyrs of Llangwm:: OS grid SH9944 ...
15 Mar 2007 ... The date, 27th May 1887; the setting, the Tithe riots - large mobs of ... again in any part of England or Wales, to sell for tithes. ...
www.geograph.org.uk/photo/366183 - Cached - Similar

In conclusion, North East Wales has some great examples for Gwaith Hanes Goch Cymru, Commemorative events and memorials and maybe for real some true radical Socialist Republican Rallies maybe, time to put aside Medieval Princes and focus more on Peasant and Workers struggles as some what closer to our times and more pertinent to popular struggle today.

Some associated music:

  1. Dawson Smith.com - The Cordell Collection
    Rape Of The Fair Country was followed by Hosts Of Rebecca, which is set in mid Wales during the Rebecca tollgate riots, and later by Song Of The Earth, ...
    www.dawsonsmith.com/dawson/cordell_info.html - Cached - Similar
  2. Carreg Ddu - Inspirational Music from Wales
    Weary Soldiers/Rebecca's Soldiers: The Rebecca Riots took place between 1839 and 1842 in South and Mid Wales. They were a protest by rural folk against the ...
    www.carregddu.co.uk/songs.html - Cached
See following, amazing?

YouTube - Rebecca Riots
Named after an mid-19th century uprising against the British government in South Wales, the Rebecca Riots is an acoustic folk trio from Berkeley, CA.
www.youtube.com/artist?a...feature=watch_video_title - Cached

Also on line: The Scotch Cattle and the Battle of Llanilleth/Crumlin. Plus continuing my 'Land and Liberty Campaign with a feature on the Dukes of Beaufort and Sir Joseph Bailey, English Lords 'Conquistadores' of the Reformation and of the Industrial Revolution. Complete with some Red Pitchfork Flag photos on Mynydd Llangynider. In a day or two or three? 

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Wednesday, 13 April 2011


          

        









MYNYDD SYLEN: REBECCA RIOTS REVISIONISM ON IT's LEADERS MIGHT BE REQUIRED Follow Up On Previous Post Plus Other Information.










 

  1. The Rebecca Struggle kicked off at Efail Wen on 13 May 1838 and continued into 1839, then phased out but sprung back into a more violent life in 1842 - 1843. The Summer of 1843 was particularly violent with the Carmarthen Rebecca Riot of  19 June 1843 bringing on board the poor of the town who used the riot as an excuse to attack the workhouse. In the same period what were increasingly viewed as ''extremists'' (Cayo & Coslett of the day?), the Stag & Pheasant Five Roads Gang were increasingly engaged in radical militant action against Toll Gates and those who ran them.
The Stag & Pheasant Blue Plaque | Blue Plaques
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The Stag and Pheasant Five Roads, Llanelli. Unveiling of blue plaque....
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The Stag, Five Roads

During the Rebecca Riots the 'daughters of Rebecca' met in secret to plan their ... five miles west of Llanelli, where the five roads from Mynydd Sylen, ...
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The Picket Line — Rebecca and Her Daughters

You can also read this in paperback, under the title Rebecca Riots! ......After arriving at a house called the “Stag and Pheasant,” they disguised...
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This Extremist Militancy focused the minds of many farmers and their political, often middle class Chartist leaders on the threat of a largelly 'Rate Payers Revolt' turning into something more of a peasant popular struggle similar to the Swing Riots in England and approaching the Welsh Borders. keeping in mind the Corn Riots and Enclosure struggles had previously put farmers and the labouring poor, farm workers, Quarry workers and Coal Miners on opposite sides. 

Swing Riots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Swing Riots were a widespread uprising by the rural workers of the arable south and east of England in 1830. The rioters, largely impoverished and ...
Background to the uprisings - The riots - See also - Notes
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Against this background take a fresh, perhaps Radical Revisionist look at the Mynydd Sylen meeting of the 25 August 1843. Perhpas if attending to avoid the Royal Wedding on 29 April with an alternnative event as a walk to Mynydd Sylen and a Picnic along with some healthy fresh air plus some healthy Discussion and Debate. Then for the evening retire to the Stag and Pheasant in Five Roads to celebrate the actions of the 'Five Road Radicals.

INFORMATION FOR A MYNYDD SYLEN DAY OUT.

  1. Mynydd Sylen area - map of - Mynydd Sylen, Carmarthenshire - at ...
    Scroll down to find the map of Mynydd Sylen, and continue down the page to ... If Mynydd Sylen is not the place you were looking for, search again for any ...
    www.pagemost.com/Mynydd-Sylen-Carmarthenshire -     Cached - Similar
  2. Twin Masts on Mynydd Sylen:: OS grid SN5107 :: Geograph Britain ...
    11 Dec 2005 ... These will help you get your bearings. They're the only pair of masts like this as far as you can see.
    www.geograph.org.uk/photo/89869 - Cached


    11 Dec 2005 ... This trig point is just on the other side of a track that leads up to the masts, but actually in the next grid square.
    www.geograph.org.uk/photo/89873 - Cached
  3. mynydd sylen -
    Streetmap.co.uk provides on-line street level maps for the whole of the UK.
    www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?...Mynydd+Sylen+- - Cached
  1. OS Map of Mynydd Sylen - Saturday Walkers Club
    3 Mar 2011 ... bing Map of Mynydd Sylen, a hill/mountain in Wales : Carmarthen to Vale of Neath - Saturday Walkers Club.
    www.walkingclub.org.uk/hill/mynydd-sylen.shtml - Cached

    HANES MYNYDD SYLEN

    'Rebecca' and Felinfoel | Files
     - 12 AprA watershed in the disturbances came at the later end of August, following ...www.llanellich.org.uk/Files/rebecca-and-felinfoel.html - Cached

    1. Resolutions passed at a meeting of farmers and inhabitants held on ...

      Resolutions passed at a meeting of farmers and other inhabitants of the parishes of Llanelli, Llan-non, Pembrey and Llangendeirne, held onMynydd Sylen, ...
      www.gtj.org.uk/en/large/item/GTJ25203/ -Cached
       
      The Great Meeting | Blue Plaques
       - [ Translate this page ]      The Great Meeting on Mynydd Sylen / Y Cyfarfod Mawr ar FynyddSylenBy the end of the summer of 1843, 'The Rebecca Riots', which had ravaged West Wales, ...www.llanellich.org.uk/Blue-Plaques/the-great-meeting.html - Cached
    2. Milk churn stand with blue plaque...:: OS grid SN5108 :: Geograph ...

      11 Apr 2008... it commemorates the location of The Great Meeting of theRebecca Riots that took place on 25th August 1843 on nearby Mynydd Sylen.
      www.geograph.org.uk/photo/759590 - Cached

      This day in... | Facebook
      August 25, 1843 Rebecca Riot Meeting on Mynydd Sylen. Rebecca Riots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. en.wikipedia.org. The Rebecca Riots took place ...
      www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid...id... - Cached

    MORE INFORMATION ON REBECCA RIOTS.

    Rebecca Riots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The Rebecca Riots took place between 1839 and 1843 in South and Mid Wales. They were a series of protests undertaken by local farmers and agricultural ...    History - Rebeccaism in Radnorshire - The Rebecca Riots in fiction ... -Referencesen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Riots - Cached - Similar
A Brief History of the Rebecca Riots in - www.angelfire.com

THE REBECCA RIOTS. BACKGROUND. SOCIAL CONDITIONS AND UNREST. In the countryside of West Wales (Carmarthen, Cardigan & Pembroke) there had been a good deal ...
www.angelfire.com/ga/BobSanders/REBECCA.html - Cached - Similar

The Rebecca Riots - Bro Beca
 - 2 visits - 12 Apr
The Rebecca Riots. On the night of 6th June 1839 the tollgate at Efailwen .... The greatest Rebecca meeting was held on Mynydd Sylenabove the Gwendraeth ...
www.brobeca.co.uk/rebecca.html - Cached - Similar

  1. People's Collection Wales - Rebecca Riots
    22 Jan 2010 ... Letters and documents relating to the Rebecca Riots in east ... farmers and inhabitants held on Mynydd Sylen, 25 August 1843 [page 1 of 2] ...
    www.peoplescollectionwales.co.uk/Collection/...rebecca-riots/p4_1_2 -Cached
  2. BBC - Wales History: The Rebecca Riots
    8 Nov 2010 ... Mention the words Turnpike Trusts or the Rebecca Riotsand most ... the same year 3000 men and women marched on Mynydd Sylen in Pontyberem. ...
    www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/waleshistory/2010/11/the_rebecca_riots.html -Cached

    St Clears Times: Rebecca Riots
    11 Feb 2010 ... The Rebecca Riots On the night of 6th June 1839 the tollgate at .... The greatest Rebecca meeting was held on Mynydd Sylenabove the ...
    https://www.stclearstimes.com/section450875_159230.html - Cached

    HistoryOfTheMynyddMawr < Historian < Thayersfarm
    11 Sep 2005 ... Thus the Rebecca Rioters, though their violence may be criticised, did succeed on the Mynydd Mawr in their attempt to limit the numbers of ...
    carmarthenshirehistorian.org/.../HistoryOfTheMynyddMawr -Cached - Similar
    1. BBC - Wales History
      In August of the same year 3000 men and women marched on Mynydd Sylen in Pontyberem. ... Thomas Foster, to find out the truth about theRebecca Riots. ...
      www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/waleshistory/2010/11/ - Cached - Similar


      FURTHER BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THE REBECCA RIOTS:

        1. DOC] 
          Outline of RAISE resource pack on Court Farm
          File Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML
          ... of the key events in the 19th century history of Wales, the Rebecca Riots. His father had attended the huge farmer's meeting on Mynydd Sylen in 1843, ...
          www.swamwac.org/.../Outline_of_RAISE_resource_pack_on_Court_Farm.doc
        2. [PDF] 
          Carmarthenshire Local History Magazine
          File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
          Sylen to Pontyberem, and from here to Kidwelly and Mar•id- ..... ing poverty of the Mynydd Mawr manifested itself in th e. Rebecca Riots. ...
          carmarthenshirehistorian.org/twiki/pub/Historian/.../vol1.pdf -





    2 Apr 2007 ... I'm interested in the Rebecca Riots and William Rees. My grt grt ... against the "authorities" on Mynydd Sylen in Aug 1843, then the ...
    listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/...FHS/2007-04/1175552038 - Cached


He led the attack on the tollgate near the chapel during the Rebecca Riots, as will be described ..... On Mynydd Sylen (from the Illustrated London News) ...
www.welshleigh.org/genealogy/biographies/.../davidleigh.htm - Cached - Similar

Letter from William Chambers, 13 September 1843 [page 1 of 3]
Having taken the chair at Mynydd Sylen, I should again have attended but the manner...Source: Evan D. Jones, 'A File of "Rebecca" Papers', The Carmarthen ...
www.gtj.org.uk/en/small/item/GTJ25329//page/1/ - Cached

    • He was the leader of a demonstration at Mynydd Sylen in August 1843, during the Rebecca Riots, but shortly afterwards he helped the authorities to capture ...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Chambers_(politician) - Cached


    • The family ancestors, the Perrott's, were tenant farmers on Mynydd Sylen in West Wales for 200 years. They farmed the land where the largest meeting of the ...
    www.havard.info/Assets/family%20history.htm - Cached

    Death Dates for John Thomas and Sarah Thomas of Caerbegin farm ...
    7 posts - 2 authors
    The Edmunds & Walters family farmed on Mynydd Sylen once at Ystodwen & others in the hamlet of Horeb. Allegedly an ancestor of these families was Lucy ...
    www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,371033.15.html - Cached

    [DOC] 
    Raise memories Hugh Thomas
    File Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML
    I can just about remember the Rebecca Riots, the time when the whole county was in turmoil. ... My father went to a meeting at Mynydd Sylen....
    www.swamwac.org/test3/transition/.../Raise_memories_Hugh_Thomas.doc

    G.Gruffydd.



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